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Free audio seminar: The Lionheart Institute interviews Rob Jokel on fixing and healing in energy medicine!


This FREE audio seminar – in which Laura Fine, the director of the Lionheart Institute interviews me – includes many examples of when it is more effective to relate directly with the person’s DRIVER and when it is more effective to relate directly to the person’s VEHICLE.

The VEHICLE is a metaphor for our auric field.
The DRIVER is a metaphor for our soul.


This audio seminar explains the difference between fixing and healing and how understanding these principles will not only help you to achieve better results with your clients; it will also help you to avoid unintentionally being a disservice to those you want to help.

I have gotten very positive feedback from the participants that paid for this seminar and I wanted to share it with you.